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	<description>Gaming. It&#039;s in the blood...</description>
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		<title>By: trask</title>
		<link>http://www.livingdice.com/2076/a-road-with-no-end-endless-fantasy-book-series/comment-page-1/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>trask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with many of your points, but I still have this nagging feeling I am going to read the last page of the last &quot;Wheel of Time&quot; book and feel like I wasted a great deal of time.

Trask</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with many of your points, but I still have this nagging feeling I am going to read the last page of the last &#8220;Wheel of Time&#8221; book and feel like I wasted a great deal of time.</p>
<p>Trask</p>
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		<title>By: LiquidWeird</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiquidWeird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t entirely agree with you. The Wheel of Time has been rife with disappointments, true. The last five or so books have had little to nothing happen (though book 11 is much more like the early books. So much so that it should have come along earlier. Book 9 covered four days! FOUR DAYS!)

Song of Ice and Fire, however, hasn&#039;t had that pacing problem. Things are happening and the plot moves along quickly. I don&#039;t think that GRRM will have the same issue. Still, the current book is years late, the previous book was also years late... I love &#039;em, but wish they&#039;d come out faster. (no pressure to GRRM though... just a fanboy reader&#039;s eager desire to read in one sitting what took him years to write)

All that said, though, it takes a series for a story to be long enough to engross me. I blaze through WoT books in a day or weekend, depending on how thick the book is and how busy I am. The sheer epic length of the story is one of the draws for me. A trilogy is a solid read, like the Mistborn series by Sanderson, or Stackpole&#039;s fantasy series. I&#039;d hate to see them go away or be condensed smaller than they need to be.

I have hopes for the last three books of the Wheel of Time. Brandon Sanderson has proven that he has a better head for story pacing than Jordan did, and his Mistborn series was a great trilogy that moved along and came to a satisfying end. Same with the standalone novel Warbreaker. Great writing, excellent pacing, and he writes FAST.

So even if he says the Wheel of Time will take three books to finish, he&#039;ll have all three done faster than Jordan would have done one (and Jordan was no slouch in the speed department early on) I&#039;m betting he&#039;ll have all three out long before GRRM is finished with the book after Dance with Dragons. (maybe even before Dance is done... we&#039;ll see.) I know he got the entirety of Gathering Storm done while Martin was still working on one Daenarys chapter.

I can understand the frustration, but have some faith. They&#039;ll come out fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t entirely agree with you. The Wheel of Time has been rife with disappointments, true. The last five or so books have had little to nothing happen (though book 11 is much more like the early books. So much so that it should have come along earlier. Book 9 covered four days! FOUR DAYS!)</p>
<p>Song of Ice and Fire, however, hasn&#8217;t had that pacing problem. Things are happening and the plot moves along quickly. I don&#8217;t think that GRRM will have the same issue. Still, the current book is years late, the previous book was also years late&#8230; I love &#8216;em, but wish they&#8217;d come out faster. (no pressure to GRRM though&#8230; just a fanboy reader&#8217;s eager desire to read in one sitting what took him years to write)</p>
<p>All that said, though, it takes a series for a story to be long enough to engross me. I blaze through WoT books in a day or weekend, depending on how thick the book is and how busy I am. The sheer epic length of the story is one of the draws for me. A trilogy is a solid read, like the Mistborn series by Sanderson, or Stackpole&#8217;s fantasy series. I&#8217;d hate to see them go away or be condensed smaller than they need to be.</p>
<p>I have hopes for the last three books of the Wheel of Time. Brandon Sanderson has proven that he has a better head for story pacing than Jordan did, and his Mistborn series was a great trilogy that moved along and came to a satisfying end. Same with the standalone novel Warbreaker. Great writing, excellent pacing, and he writes FAST.</p>
<p>So even if he says the Wheel of Time will take three books to finish, he&#8217;ll have all three done faster than Jordan would have done one (and Jordan was no slouch in the speed department early on) I&#8217;m betting he&#8217;ll have all three out long before GRRM is finished with the book after Dance with Dragons. (maybe even before Dance is done&#8230; we&#8217;ll see.) I know he got the entirety of Gathering Storm done while Martin was still working on one Daenarys chapter.</p>
<p>I can understand the frustration, but have some faith. They&#8217;ll come out fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: trask</title>
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		<dc:creator>trask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as I can jump in and out of the series without feeling like I missed something, then &quot;shared universe&quot; series are fine. I am rather fond of the 1632 series that is setup in this fashion.

Trask</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as I can jump in and out of the series without feeling like I missed something, then &#8220;shared universe&#8221; series are fine. I am rather fond of the 1632 series that is setup in this fashion.</p>
<p>Trask</p>
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		<title>By: webrunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>webrunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you see things like Discworld?  They&#039;re all in the same universe, and a few of the books are &#039;sequels&#039; to other books, but every book is it&#039;s own story and often with a different set of characters.  No Discworld book could really be called &quot;Book 2 of 7&quot; or anything like that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you see things like Discworld?  They&#8217;re all in the same universe, and a few of the books are &#8216;sequels&#8217; to other books, but every book is it&#8217;s own story and often with a different set of characters.  No Discworld book could really be called &#8220;Book 2 of 7&#8243; or anything like that</p>
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		<title>By: darkpact</title>
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		<dc:creator>darkpact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totaly agree with you.

I also see some solution in between. Dragonlance runs as a long series fro some years now and the books always come out in three parts (helpful for the publisher) but each of them is somewhere closed in it&#039;s story and you don&#039;t need to read everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totaly agree with you.</p>
<p>I also see some solution in between. Dragonlance runs as a long series fro some years now and the books always come out in three parts (helpful for the publisher) but each of them is somewhere closed in it&#8217;s story and you don&#8217;t need to read everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Epic&quot; series of books are somewhat annoying. Not because I can&#039;t stop reading (I can, and I can resume it after years and still catch on quickly), but because I forget what book I was reading and then the local library won&#039;t have them in the shelf and all the complications.

Also, shorter stories are better inspiration for roleplaying and often better fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Epic&#8221; series of books are somewhat annoying. Not because I can&#8217;t stop reading (I can, and I can resume it after years and still catch on quickly), but because I forget what book I was reading and then the local library won&#8217;t have them in the shelf and all the complications.</p>
<p>Also, shorter stories are better inspiration for roleplaying and often better fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, but publishers tend to go for formulas that work and right now series are it.

For comparision, it is interesting to pick up SF/F from the 70s or earlier and how much plot is packed into a small number of pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, but publishers tend to go for formulas that work and right now series are it.</p>
<p>For comparision, it is interesting to pick up SF/F from the 70s or earlier and how much plot is packed into a small number of pages.</p>
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		<title>By: David Macauley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Macauley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preaching to the converted here and WoT was my catalyst too. Gave all my copies away around book 6 or 7 and decided not to read any unfinished series ever again, by any author.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preaching to the converted here and WoT was my catalyst too. Gave all my copies away around book 6 or 7 and decided not to read any unfinished series ever again, by any author.</p>
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		<title>By: mthomas768</title>
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		<dc:creator>mthomas768</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you. I was never a big fan of Robert Jordan, but the trend towards mega-ultra-super-serials in fantasy literature is out of hand. I had high hopes for Song of Ice and Fire, but now it looks like just another never-ending story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you. I was never a big fan of Robert Jordan, but the trend towards mega-ultra-super-serials in fantasy literature is out of hand. I had high hopes for Song of Ice and Fire, but now it looks like just another never-ending story.</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preach brother, preach.

I followed WoT for four books, then stopped buying.

Song of Fire and Ice, bought the first book. Stopped. My friends were baffled. &quot;But it&#039;s such a good series.&quot; It was a good book, for sure, but not good enough to invest the kind of time these series seem to want one to invest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preach brother, preach.</p>
<p>I followed WoT for four books, then stopped buying.</p>
<p>Song of Fire and Ice, bought the first book. Stopped. My friends were baffled. &#8220;But it&#8217;s such a good series.&#8221; It was a good book, for sure, but not good enough to invest the kind of time these series seem to want one to invest.</p>
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